Roland D10 and Bome SendSX

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I'm trying to restore the original sounds on my old roland D10. I’ve downloaded the original sounds from the Roland website. When I try to install them via Midi, Bome always stops at the sending line 2/166 and reports “not responding”. I have tried both under windows 7 and windows 10 but it’s the same. As a midi interface I use an Otracki usb to midi. Can anyone help me?

Thanks in advance


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I've never hear of Otracki usb to midi but that would be my first suspect. Many USB to MIDI converters are built for performance only meaning only 2 or 3 byte MIDI message at a time.  Many of these converters have small buffer size and cannot handle System Exclusive message as they can only buffer a small number of data bytes.

Firt though I would try going to  options->settings  in SendSX and set split long message, throttling and put it at the slowest speed.

(See picture).

If that does't work I've heard that the Roland UM1 works and I have a iConnectivity MIO 1 that also works.

 

Steve Caldwell
Bome Q and A Moderator and
Independent Bome Consultant/Specialist
bome@sniz.biz


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Thank You Steve for your quickly reply.

I will try the solution you have indicated to me.

Best regards

Fabrizio

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Hi Steve

I tried your solution but doesn't work (same result).

Here below the midi interface that I use

https://www.amazon.it/OTraki-Otraki-cavo-USB-MIDI/dp/B07KYDP3GK

Somewhere (in the dark) I should have an old Us-122 (see the photo), I could try with that, what do you think about it?

Fabrizio


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Hi, I don’t know if it will work or not. Maybe another thing to try with your current adapter is to reverse the IN and OUT cables. It is possible you have them backwards. Usually you have to connect In on your adapter to out on your keyboard and visa versa.

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Hi, I had already tried to invert the cables but it didn't work (same error message), 
I will try with another midi interface.
Thanks for everything.
Fabrizio
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I am having this exact same issue. I was wondering if anyone found a solution. Thanks.

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Hi @kevin.cox . Welcome to the Bome Community!

What type of MIDI interface cable are you using? (manufacturer/model)
Does the cable work when sending to other MIDI devices?
Have you tried a different cable?
Could you send a snapshot of the MIDI output device you have configured in SendSX?
What data are you sending? Can you send short MIDI messages such as note-on and note-off and will your D10 receive them?

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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Hi Steve

I have been trying this cable.

Amazon.com: FORE Type-C to MIDI Interface MIDI Cable Adapter with Input&Output

This is my first attempt at hooking up a D10 or any keyboard to a PC actually so this is all new to me. I have not tried sending any simple MIDI messages … could you give me some instruction on how to do that?

I am trying to reset my d10 back to factory settings. I downloaded the patch from Roland. Keeps locking up on me.

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OK so the link you indicated did not work so I assume it is this device.

I haven’t had any direct experience with this device so don’t know if it is good or not. If you are not sending simple MIDI Messages, what are you sending? Could you post an example SysEX file?

For a Simple Note on Message (Note 64 on MIDI CH 1), after selecting your MIDI OUT Port in SendSX, you would put 90 40 7F in the send area and click send. This should sound a note on your D10.
To turn the same note off, you would put 80 40 00 in the send area and hit send.

Below is a screenshot of what it looks like in SendSX

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Be sure that your MIDI OUT portion of your cable is plugged in to MIDI IN on your device.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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I am following this video exactly trying to re load the factory preset sounds back in the D10.

YOUTUBE VIDEO

Can you suggest a different cable to use? I will also try the simple midi signal when I get home today.

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Before we go down that path, it is important to know the cable will work for you before sending a complex SysEx message. Did you try my suggestion? You should not put the device in SysEX mode for the suggestion I have.

Does SendSX show that any bytes have been sent after you press send?

Most people tell me the Roland UM-1 works well. For me, I use a mio MIDI adapter. Some cables have a hard time with large SysEX messages as they required buffered data and some adapters have too small of a buffer size.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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Hi again,

I looked at the reviews of your cable on Amazon and found that a few said it would not handle SysEX so that is likely the issue.

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Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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OK thanks I got the UM-1 coming from Amazon, should have it later this week. I also performed your test from above and the note played. But being just a single note and not a Sysex file sounds like the issue so I will wait for the new cable and let you know how that goes!

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Yes, based on the customer reviews the cable is the likely problem.

Thanks for the update!

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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The new cable did the trick! Thanks for the great support!

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Awesome. Glad to have helped!

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz