XTouch(Fullsize) motorized fader feedback from MA2 onPC

Hi Alfred,

It appears by looking a your project file, page 1 and page 2 should move you faders, however the rest of the faders will not jump to their last known position on that page. Only the fader you are moving with GMA2. Page 3 will not work since your preset does not have your controller as the output port. Is this the behavior you are seeing? Did you see my email response regarding paid services?

Steve Caldwell
Bome Q and A Moderator and
Independent Bome Consultant/Specialist
bome@sniz.biz

Hello Steve , i just forget to assign correct output port in page3 preset.

I dont receive your email response regarding paid services.

I just resent the email. Maybe it is in your SPAM folder?

Is the behavior as I described?

I just checked my Spam folder. No mail.

Yes correct. For example when i Change Page from Page1 to Page2, all faders was still on Page1 position. I need to tap each of the Faders from GMA2 to recall the value/position of each faders. What i need to happen is when I change each pages, faders should automaticall move/follow with its assigned value/position.

Just resent the mail again.

Steve, do you have other email?.. Its 3rd time you sent mail but i dont receive anyone of them. I just checked my SPAM folder still NONE. Send me an email with your alternative email address. Let see if i can receive it now.

Iā€™ll send from an alternate email address.

Hey, Iā€™m getting my mail bounced back but didnā€™t notice until now. Could you send me another email from an alternate email address that you have and I will try and respond again.

Received your mail. I already sent reply.

Hey Iā€™m using the same files however when I bring the fader up Bome sends a note after itā€™s up that brings the fader back down to the start. Any idea? Bome: IN: X-Touch ext OUT: BOME MIDI 1 MA2: IN BOME 1, OUT: X-TOUCH

Hey I'm using the same files however when I bring the fader up Bome sends a note after it's up that brings the fader back down to the start. Any idea? Bome: IN: X-Touch ext OUT: BOME MIDI 1 MA2: IN BOME 1, OUT: X-TOUCH

 

Yes, GrandMA does not echo back anything you send it. If you put a static route in the MIDI router section from your X-touch back to itself, it should work fine. Mackie faders always require remote feedback to make them stick in their new positions.

 

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care


Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz

 

Hello, I made a similar project with MA to control the faders with the x-touch. I wanted to ask you how you made the database so that when you change the page in MA, the faders take the value of the selected page. thanks

Hi and welcome to the Bome community.

Assuming you have figured out how to get fader feedback from GrandMA (there is no automated way that I know of without scripting), you monitor all pages at all times from MA2 and put the values into global variables.

Then you set up MA2 some mechanism via MIDI to send to MT Pro that you just switched pages.

In MT Pro, when the page switch is detected via a MIDI message, you use a repeating timer to update your X-touch with the values of the global variable you used for that particular page.

For something like this I usually change presets and have a different preset per page. The MIDI message invokes a preset change and I have each preset use an incoming trigger ā€œon preset activeā€ trigger the repeating timer that actually sends the global variable values to the controller for the given preset.

Then the active preset also monitors the global variable to update them in real time as long as it is selected.

I hope this helps!

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care


Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz

hello steve thank you very much for your answer I am beginning to understand how to do it. Would you have some example project to observe well. Thank you

I donā€™t have any specific examples but this tutorial might help.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care


Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz

Hi, I found a way to get fader feedback using MIDI Show Control on GrandMA. It will work with any faders that have an executor defined as a fader type.

In GMA2 go to SetUp and then MIDI Show Control

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My MSC setting look like the below

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In options set up your MIDI Device

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Setup whatever Faders you want as Mstr

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Now GMA2 will recognized any active faders by the page number and fader number.

I set up one preset for page 1 faders in the following MT Pro file.
Set you aliases accordingly in the MIDI Menu

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Then use the attached Project File

Xtouch-Fader-GMA2.bmtp (1.2 KB)

There are two translators. One that translates XTouch MCU faders to MSC for GrandMA2 and the other for MIDI Feedback that translators MSC back to MCU to the XTouch.

Make sure your X-touch is in Mackie MCU mode.

I hope this helps!

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care


Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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This works brilliantly with a Presonus Faderport 8 in MCU mode, but I canā€™t get it to switch banks, so I can only control the first 8 GMA faders. Would I have to read the Next Bank button to set a variable to jump to a new set of Translators?

And, of course, thereā€™s nothing in the scribble strips. Thereā€™d be no way to tell what bank I was on.

Yes, you would probably need to add a global variable to determine what bank you are on and increment it on bank up and decrement it on bank down. Then you would use the bank number to recalculate the outgoing value you want to send to GMA2.

You could also use the global variable to determine the messages you want to send back to the scribble strips. It would likely need to be handled locally by Bome MIDI Translator Pro unless you wrote a LUA script in GMA2 to send the required SysEX message back to your controller.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care


Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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Thinking about it, Iā€™d lose the feedback to the motors, unless I somehow saved and restored every setting. Sigh. The Faderport 16 should just work for one entire bank, though. Get the rest on the touchscreen.

Thanks.