I’m in the process of adding a Bome Box to my rig (to convert my daisy-chained MIDI setup to a ‘star’ or ‘hub-and-spoke’ setup). I’ll be connecting the Bome Box to a mioXL MIDI interface to connect to a range of units.
One of my (new) units - a Tasty Chips Integral pedal - has a USB Host interface. The documentation for the unit suggests a ‘host-to-host’ adapter to allow connection to another USB Host interface, such as on the Bome Box. I’m unclear on this … do I simply use a specialized Host-to-Host cable between the mioXL and the Integral … a device such as this (or any other device that you might recommend):
Cable Matters USB 3.0 Data Transfer Cable PC to PC for Windows, USB Transfer Cable in 6.6 ft - Easy Computer Sync Software Key Included, Works with Windows 11/10/8/7/Vista/XP, Compatible with PCMover
I’ve never seen a USB host to USB host converter. If it also has a device USB port, I would use that instead. It is not a matter of just having the proper connector type.
If all it has is a host connection, then you could either use the Device port of your mioXL to connect it to the host port of your pedal or ask the pedal manufacturer for any recommendations on the proper hardware for a host to host connection.
BomeBox allows for connections to a USB MIDI device, MIDI device (MIDI DIN), network (using Bome Network, serial port (over USB) and qwerty keyboard (over USB with a hub).
Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care
Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
Even if your pedal is a host, I’m not sure what type of USB device connections it supports so it still may not work with your mioXL. Best to probably use MIDI DIN on the BomeBox and hopefully the pedal has a MIDI cable adapter to just use MIDI.
Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care
Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
That Integral pedal only has a USB-A Host port (aside from analog I/O, an expression pedal, and power).
That USB port was initially designed to host a thumb drive with additional Convolution Impulse Response files for the pedal. They added MIDI response to the pedal in a firmware update, and the manual simply suggest using a ‘host to host connection’.
I’m at a loss for the right device to use to talk to this pedal, so I guess I’ll just go with one of these consumer type host-to-host cables and plug and pray …
OR … as you tangentially suggested, maybe I could use a single channel DIN5 to USB converter such as the iConnectivity mio, go out a DIN port from the mioXL and convert back to USB-A with the mio. It’ll with definitely add latency, but that’s irrelevant when configuring a reverb pedal.
Appreciate the input … and I’ll report back here with howzitgoing (if I don’t burn down my house in the process).
If your pedal is a host port, then you could go out the device port of the MIO XL. With that said you would not have any other device ports for the BomeBox so maybe yes may MIDI DIN IN/OUt of the mioXL to a MIO single adapter and plug the USB A side of that into your pedal.
I’m surprised that your pedal doesn’t do MID TRS.
Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care
Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
… However, this does work: using a MIDI interface to convert USB to DIN MIDI and then going out into a single-channel MIDI converter (an iConnectivity mio).
What also works: the unheralded but very useful device does: A Sevilla Soft MIDI USB-USB.
This Sevilla Soft device also works with my DynaSample XpressO, which has a similar issue with MIDI between USB-A and USB-A. It facilitates two-way MIDI with a set of 4 USB ports:
This would slow down the MIDI to the weakest link speeds (the MIDI DIN connection).
How much does it cost and where do you buy it? Bome Network Pro is 25 Euros for use on 5 computers. No hardware required if you use WiFi. For ethernet it just needs the proper cabling.
Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care
Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
This would slow down the MIDI to the weakest link speeds (the MIDI DIN connection).
I’m only sending a patch change, in this case, so speed is not a criterion.
And, by the way, a big issue I’ve had with MIDI speed isn’t the latency as much as it is the jitter. When sending MIDI in and out of an ASIO interface, I found out (after a lot of hair pulling) that the MIDI gets tacked onto the ASIO audio buffer. Don’t matter when the MIDI arrives, it has to wait for the audio buffer to fill up. This introduces jitter and completely confused me when I was doing latency testing. This jitter effect happens both inbound and outbound from the DAW, so the issue is doubled.
No hardware required if you use WiFi. For ethernet it just needs the proper cabling.
That foot pedal only talks USB on a USB-A connector … No MIDI TRS, no Ether, AppleTalk, XNS, ChaosNet, IPX, Apollo Domain, SNA, RSCS, FDDI, DECnet, and no Smoke Signals.
It was originally designed to read a USB thumb drive with Impulse Response files, and the expanded the functionality to accept MIDI PC commands for patch changes …
