just wondering if anyone has any experience setting up a midi fighter twister with logic pro as a instrument AND plugin control surface? i have some info from some gentleman from LogicProHelp who gave me some info i how they set their controllers up..i received contact from the company that makes my controller (djtechtools) said that I could use this software to implement this...in am however new to some of these concepts with working with midi assignments and etc..just wondering if anyone had any tips on how this software could be used to do so. i’d like to see if either option is easier..Thank you all
Hi,
I haven't had any experience with Logic Pro but I have a MIDI Fighter Twister and it is a fine controller. The encoders and switches are mostly all mappable. I'm not sure what controllers Logic Pro supports besides Mackie Control Universal Protocol (MCU), however I've mapped several controllers to emulatate MCU with success so although it might or might not work out of the box with Logic Pro, I know with the Bome Software and some knowledge of how MCU works, you can get it to work, so it is really a matter of cost and/or time investment on your part.
Here is a link of controllers I've been able to emulate MCU protocol and other paid consulting services I've done for extended capabilities using Bome MIDI Translator Pro.
https://polychoice.wixsite.com/midibuddy/other-midi-solutions
I'm a paid consultant for complete solutions but help out with Bome related user questions and general support here for free (up to a point).
Steve Caldwell
Bome Q and A Moderator and
Independent Bome Consultant/Specialist
bome@sniz.biz
thanks steve i appreciate your response..i’m all for options and even though i want to learn this stuff a little better and attempt to try some opinions i have been given , i would def do business with you if you knew of a way to help me implement this stuff with logic or atleast detailed info on how to set up..The way you phrased it helps give me more to research “emulating a mcu in logic pro” before i didn’t know where to start..but how does using ur service work? i’ve checked pricing i’d be happy to do business and get professional help
thanks steve i appreciate your response…i’m all for options and even though i want to learn this stuff a little better and attempt to try some opinions i have been given , i would def do business with you if you knew of a way to help me implement this stuff with logic or atleast detailed info on how to set up…The way you phrased it helps give me more to research “emulating a mcu in logic pro” before i didn’t know where to start…but how does using ur service work? i’ve checked pricing i’d be happy to do business and get professional help
i think i accidentally posted this under my initial post instead of to your response, my bad!
Well when you know what knobs you want to map to what. I can probably help you map at least your first 16 knobs for your. Generally I like the first 8 as V-POTs with push and the 2nd 8 as faders. I then use the last knob so I can push and make it a master fader. After that it is up to you what you want what push buttons to do what function. Reach out to me when you get your MIDI fighter twister here. If you want paid, services, just drop me an email.
But I'll tell you Mackie MCU uses pitch bend for faders with tracks 1-8 equal to MIDI CH 1-8 and master fader as pitch bend on MIDI CH 9. For values I use the CC value for both MSB and LSB of the fader.
For VPOT's it is best to set you encoders for relative 3E/41 and convert from there. Mackie uses MIDI CH1 with CCs' of 16-23. Forward direction is value 1-63 and reverse direction is 64-127. Typically you do not see movement that far howver usually just 1-5 and 64-69. I can help with figuring the formulas. So I recommend you set the first 8 encoders as 3F/41 and the remaining as absolute. Let me know when you are ready. and what CC's you want them assigned on your MFT.
Steve Caldwell
Bome Q and A Moderator and
Independent Bome Consultant/Specialist
bome@sniz.biz
Oh and I almost forgot. For faders there is a touch note-on message of 104-112 that needs to be sent prior to fader movement or they don’t move.
Steve
Hello, jumping on this old thread because I have the exact same requirement. I would also like to hook it up to work with lightroom and premiere pro. Is this something you offer @stevec ?
Hi,
Thanks for jumping in!
For Faders, I recommend setting your twister knobs for CC and then convert from CC to Pitch Bend. There would be reverse translation coming back from Logic Pro. Each track has it’s own MIDI CH
For V-POTS, I recommend setting twister knobs for ENC 3F/41 and then set up to convert to Mackie VPOT where values are 01 02 03 for right movement and values are 0x41 0x42 and 0x43 for left movement CCs are 16-23 (0x10-0x17) . All of this is on MIDI CH 1. For reverse translation (LED display, I believe the the mapping is a bit more complicated. If I remember it is CC 0x30-0x37 on MIDI CH1 with values of 0-13 so you would need to scale 0-13 up to 0-127.
As to buttons, it would be dependent on the push encoders and what banks of the MFT you want to use for what purpose. For V-Pots probably V-Select for push and then determine where you want Track-up, Track-down, Bank-Up, Bank Down , the mutes, solos, etc.
This can all be done but a complete solution is a paid service. There are several examples of each type in various places on the forum, so you could probably search for them and develop your own solution or send me an email and with your spec, I can provide an estimate and build something for you.
For Mackie MCU protocol which describes the messages used specific for this protocol, do a web search on “Mackie MCU protocol”. I can’t remember the exact name of the document but I believe it was published by Logic control. There is MIDI section at the end that details the Mackie protocol MIDI messages. Try maybe a search on emagic. Mackie MCU is a protocol that uses MIDI so probably would be best to understand MIDI first.
Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care
Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz