Translate duplicate "all notes off" to one "note off," notes hanging as it is in DAW

[dbsreg]

Hi thanks for this translation software it is helping me get very close to fixing a problem but I’m not quite there yet, but maybe there is a solution.

I am using an IOS chord instrument as a midi controller going into Logic on a Mac. It actually works fine on another DAW Reaper but that one has been more laggy, and I use Logic and in that DAW the chord notes all hang indefinitely. In Midi Monitor (shown above) it looks like it sends a control “all notes off” before all the “note ons” and then another control “all notes off.”

The best fix I have so far in Bome is to just translate “notes on” to “notes on” then “notes off” but then have to use the delay to turn off the notes and it is usable but I can’t control how long the notes are held for by playing. The other method was to translate control “all notes off” to “notes on” then notes off” but that had the same end result as they only way to get it to make a sound was to put a set delay time that can’t be controlled by playing. Perhaps the extra all notes off at the beginning cancels things out. Also the control method added extra notes at the highest key of the keyboard for some reason perhaps due the way the IOS app writes it.

I’m wondering if a rule that ignores only the first control “all notes off” and then only translating the ending control “all notes off” to “notes off” could solve the problem of both ending the notes in the DAW and being able to control the length by playing. Is there a way to write a rule to ignore the first control “all notes off” unless it is preceded by “Notes on” messages or some better suggestion?

There will also be melody keyboard notes from the same instrument on the same channel that may further complicate the translation rules (and sometimes also has hanging notes) but for now I’ll see if just getting the chords straightened out works.

Thank you

[SteveC (Steve)]

Hi and welcome to the Bome community!

Some devices do not recognize the all-notes-off CC message so you might need a timer to iterate through all note turning them off one by one. I would also suspect the device sending MIDI messages as the MIDI specification states that for every note-on message, it should (eventually) send a note-off message. I’ve seen drum machines that never sen note-off messages, however an just rely on the the drum release to happen naturally.

Maybe you should post your project file?

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Bome Customer Care

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[dbsreg]

carp test 2.bmtp (1.1 KB)

carp test.bmtp (1.0 KB)

Thank you Steve, I’m attaching the two versions of the translations I have tried (just notes on to off, and one that tries to translate the control all notes off message which sounds the same as the other in terms of note length determined by the delay setting only but also adds extra unwanted high notes ).

[SteveC (Steve)]

I guess I would ask, why you are getting stuck notes. Is the application not sending not off messages?

I don’t see any translators that allow note-off to pass through or MIDI thru paths that allow note-off through.

What exactly do you want Bome MIDI Translator Pro to do here? If it is just MIDI routing you should just draw lines between the input device and the destination application.

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[dbsreg]

Do you mean my attachments don’t look like they should work or you don’t see them? When i play the IOS app by midi into the computer Logic or GarageBand DAW controlling a software instrument yes the notes do not turn off. They just play indefinitely despite the “all notes off” message in midi monitor and the midi input note dot turns off in Logic, but the midi regions recordings also shows the notes lasting indefinitely. I tried it on two different version of Logic on two computers. It does work correctly in the Repaer DAW, the notes turn off. When I use both of the Bome midi translations presets that I sent, then notes do turn off successfully in Logic and using the Bome presets are the only way I have gotten the notes to turn off while controlling with that app. So I guess Logic does not understand the “all notes off” this app sends only the Bome’s individual “notes off.” However the notes last as long as I set the delay in the Bome preset, I can’t control the length by playing the keyboard. I was trying to adjust the preset so the “all notes off” can be translated in a way that stops the notes successfully when i stop playing them rather than whatever delay time i set up in the preset.

[dbsreg]

Sorry you are right about carp test 2.bmtp, that one doesn’t seem to work anymore though i was using it yesterday I thought, but now it only triggers unintended extreme high notes now and none of the intended notes. Only carp test.bmtp (1.0 KB) is playing correctly, as long as it has a delay set to turn off the note (your youtube video showed me how to do that). Even if I can’t find a way to control the note lengths when playing, the Notes Off translation already is making the IOS instrument more usable, which it wasn’t at all before.

[SteveC (Steve)]

If all you want to do is pass thru MIDI messages from your one controller or application to another you can use the attached. There are no translators, but any message arriving on “My Controller” will pass thru the “Application”. If for some reason, your controller is not sending note-off messages than we would need a translator to intervene.

Here are how my aliases are set up.

You can learn more about aliases from this tutorial.

And here is the MIDI router showing the default MIDI thru path.

MIDI-Pass-Thru.bmtp (1.4 KB)

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[dbsreg]

Hi thank you, i tried the IOS controller through the pass-thru you sent, that has the same effect as playing the controller directly into the DAW, where the notes turn on but don’t turn off. I don’t think the DAW is understanding the control “all notes off” message the controller is sending, or perhaps because the “all notes off” is also being sent twice also before the notes turn on it is not understanding it. In my first pic there is pic showing what the controller sends. If there is a way to translate the “all notes off” message to individual “notes off” without that first duplicate “all notes off” interfering perhaps that would fix it.

[SteveC (Steve)]

To see what is going on, you can open the Log Window of Bome MIDI translator Pro.

![image|689x225](upload://v4EaPMzoZjgY8uBscJfgREV6a1J.pn

Then once it is opened, chack the boxes as show below.

The play something. After playing, copy and paste what you see into a posting here on the forum.

It is odd that your device is not sending note off messages.

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[dbsreg]

1: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58
2: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: B0 7B 58
3: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 32 50
4: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 32 50
5: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 35 50
6: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 35 50
7: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 39 50
8: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 39 50
9: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 3E 50
10: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 3E 50
11: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58
12: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: B0 7B 58

[SteveC (Steve)]

I see, so your deviced never sends note-off messages and the DAW does not recognize “all-notes-off” so you can try the attached project. When it receives and all-notes off message on MIDI CH 1 (Translator 0.0), it starts a repeating timer (Translator 0.1) which iterates through all 127 notes turning them off.

All-Notes-Off-Iteration-2026-02-18.bmtp (2.4 KB)

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[dbsreg]

Thank you for your continuing help, seems that is working similar to my prior translations where it cuts off the notes very quickly. Maybe because the timer perhaps get triggered right away because the controller send a control “all notes off” at the beginning of the notes too? Instead of after the second “all notes off” (which is the one triggered when I actually stop playing)? This is probably very close to working though if there was maybe some way to ignore that first extra “all notes off?” Perhaps if there was a way to write a rule to ignore control “all notes off” unless it follows a “note on”?

1: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58

2: IN 0.0 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:123 (0x7B) and any value=88

3: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 2D 50

4: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 30 50

5: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 34 50

6: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 39 50

7: IN 0.1 Timer Notes-Off Timer

8: OUT 0.0 Timer pp times ‘Notes-Off Timer’: 0 ms (initial delay: 0 ms)

9: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 7F 00

10: OUT 0.1 Note Off on ch.“pp”=0 (ch.1) with note:qq=127 and velocity:gf=0

11: IN 0.1 Timer Notes-Off Timer

12: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 7E 00

13: OUT 0.1 Note Off on ch.“pp”=0 (ch.1) with note:qq=126 and velocity:gf=0

14: IN 0.1 Timer Notes-Off Timer

15: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 7D 00

16: OUT 0.1 Note Off on ch.“pp”=0 (ch.1) with note:qq=125 and velocity:gf=0

17: IN 0.1 Timer Notes-Off Timer

18: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 7C 00

19: OUT 0.1 Note Off on ch.“pp”=0 (ch.1) with note:qq=124 and velocity:gf=0

20: IN 0.1 Timer Notes-Off Timer

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[SteveC (Steve)]

OK so this gets more complicated.

In the below examples I use 4 global variables to track and bitmap all of the incoming note-on messages (ga,gb,gc, and gd)

I only send a note off if a note has been pressed and not released. Once I send the note-off, I reset the bitmap read for the next incoming note.

The translators in preset 0 handle the initialization of global variables when the project opens.

The rules in translator 1.0 track the incoming notes and stuff bits for any note on messages based on the note number.

Translator 1.1 looks for the all-notes off message and starts the timer. I use the global variable “ge” for the note number or the iteration counter.

Translator 1.2 is the timer and iterates through the bitmap and only sends a note and clears the bit if the note has been pressed.

Give it a try.

All-Notes-Off-Iteration-2026-02-18A.bmtp (4.4 KB)

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[dbsreg]

Hi Steve really appreciate your help, I’m afraid this has the same result as the previous translators, where the note length is very brief due to the timer maybe being triggered by the controller’s erroneous first “all notes off” which happens at the same time as the “note on” and perhaps makes it look to Bome like it has been released, instead of the second and intended “all notes off” when I stop playing the notes. Would it work if there is way to ignore “all notes off” unless it has been preceded by “note on”?

It does however fix the the problem where the previous translations involving control “all notes off” were triggering very high notes!

controller only pic showing extra “all notes off” at same time as “note on”:

bome translation:

1: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58
2: IN 1.1 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:123 (0x7B) and any value=88
3: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 2D 50
4: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=45 with any velocity=80
5: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 2D 50
6: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 30 50
7: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=48 with any velocity=80
8: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 30 50
9: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 34 50
10: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=52 with any velocity=80
11: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 34 50
12: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 39 50
13: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=57 with any velocity=80
14: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 39 50
15: OUT 1.1 Timer ge times ‘Notes-Off Timer’: 0 ms (initial delay: 0 ms)
16: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
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87: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 39 00
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105: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 2D 00
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152: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58
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[SteveC (Steve)]

Try putting a 500 ms value on the output of translator 2.1 as shown below to see if that helps. Honestly we are trying to work around a poor performing input device so maybe you should discuss with the people that made it.

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[dbsreg]

Yes putting a longer timer on it helps in that it makes the notes a bit longer, I did that on my initial translations too, the notes still cut off since they aren’t triggered by the intended “all notes off.” I’m sorry yes the controller is the problem, and all the Bome translations so far are definitely an improvement and make the controller somewhat usable now, except for not being able to play the note length. Is there a way to write a rule that can ignore controller “all notes off” unless preceded by a “note on”? That’s the only thing left I thought maybe could make the note lengths controllable by the intended “all notes off.” If not, thank you for your help so far, it is much more usable.

Yes the controller is the problem. It is an app made by one person and they just added midi to it in the last update so perhaps it is not implemented correctly. I did inform them a few weeks ago but didn’t hear back about that issue (they did answer about another one previously).

[SteveC (Steve)]

This one will only trigger the timer if any note is playing. You can look at the rules of translator 1.1.

I also do not have a start delay on the timer any more.

All-Notes-Off-Iteration-2026-02-19.bmtp (5.0 KB)

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[dbsreg]

Thanks Steve that works to control the note length as played! However it seems it is still causing hung chords again in the DAW if I start playing more than one test chord and in the melody, happened in the previous translation too. So this controller may be too screwed up to be corrected on our end.

However some of the previous simplest Bome translations with just “notes on” to “notes off” with set delays of any length I tried had no hung notes no matter what I played, so might actually be the best compromise where at least it is still audible enough to play, and lengths can be made longer with midi sustain fx and editing if need be. Really appreciate your help and Bome has made it usable.

1: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58
2: IN 1.1 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:123 (0x7B) and any value=88
3: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: B0 7B 58
4: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 2D 50
5: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=45 with any velocity=80
6: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 2D 50
7: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 30 50
8: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=48 with any velocity=80
9: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 30 50
10: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 34 50
11: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=52 with any velocity=80
12: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 34 50
13: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 39 50
14: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=57 with any velocity=80
15: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 39 50
16: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58
17: IN 1.1 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:123 (0x7B) and any value=88
18: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 30 50
19: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=48 with any velocity=80
20: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 30 50
21: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 34 50
22: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=52 with any velocity=80
23: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 34 50
24: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 37 50
25: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=55 with any velocity=80
26: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 37 50
27: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 3C 50
28: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=60 with any velocity=80
29: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 3C 50
30: OUT 1.1 Timer ge times ‘Notes-Off Timer’: 0 ms (initial delay: 0 ms)
31: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
32: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
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99: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 3C 00
100: OUT 1.2 Note Off on ch. 1 with note:pp=60 and velocity:0 (0x00)
101: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
102: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
103: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
104: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 39 00
105: OUT 1.2 Note Off on ch. 1 with note:pp=57 and velocity:0 (0x00)
106: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
107: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
108: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 37 00
109: OUT 1.2 Note Off on ch. 1 with note:pp=55 and velocity:0 (0x00)
110: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
111: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
112: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
113: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 34 00
114: OUT 1.2 Note Off on ch. 1 with note:pp=52 and velocity:0 (0x00)
115: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
116: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
117: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
118: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
119: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 30 00
120: OUT 1.2 Note Off on ch. 1 with note:pp=48 and velocity:0 (0x00)
121: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
122: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
123: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
124: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 80 2D 00
125: OUT 1.2 Note Off on ch. 1 with note:pp=45 and velocity:0 (0x00)
126: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
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170: IN 1.2 Timer Notes-Off Timer
171: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: B0 7B 58
172: IN 1.1 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:123 (0x7B) and any value=88
173: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: B0 7B 58
174: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 2D 50
175: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=45 with any velocity=80
176: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 2D 50
177: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 30 50
178: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=48 with any velocity=80
179: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 30 50
180: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 34 50
181: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=52 with any velocity=80
182: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 34 50
183: MIDI IN [iPhone SE Bluetooth]: 90 39 50
184: IN 1.0 Note On on ch. 1 with any note set “pp” to note=57 with any velocity=80
185: MIDI OUT [Bome MIDI Translator 1 Virtual Out]: 90 39 50

[SteveC (Steve)]

So I suspect that the timing of the incoming all-notes-off message is off and so it may be arriving at the same time we are evaluating if all notes are off. A note comes on after, we have evaluated that they are all off so the timer doesn’t fire and we get hung notes.

Yes, the controller needs fixing. I should be sending both note-on and not-off messages and only send an all-notes off message if the user uses a “panic” function which is what it was intended for. Even then, many DAWs and synths do not process all-notes-off messages which is what the Bome workaround project is for. If you check the timestamp box in the log window, you would probably easily see the messed up timing of the incoming note and all-notes-off messages.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

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Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz

[SteveC (Steve)]

I’m not sure if this will help because I didn’t test it but this version also will not process an all-notes-off message to the timer if the timer is already running (gf=1). Maybe starting the timer again when it is already running is causing problems.

You can certainly give it a try.

All-Notes-Off-Iteration-2026-02-19B.bmtp (5.2 KB)

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care

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Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz