Yamaha O2R button fuctions

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Hi,

I have a question about programma buttons from the Yamaha O2R

It seems the Sysex data from on/off buttons have 3 code's

Fader channel 1 button on/off

In on mode it's: (When channel led is illuminated from the O2R)

F0 43 10 3D 19 00 03 01 F7 F0 43 10 3D 40 03 0B 08 F7 F0 43 10 3D 19 00 03 00 F7

Off mode it's:

F0 43 10 3D 19 00 03 01 F7 F0 43 10 3D 19 00 03 00 F7 F0 43 10 3D 40 03 0B 00 F7

I want to use it as mute or on/off fuction in Cubase

Can you give me a suggestion how to write the correct translator code in Bome's midi translator pro?

 

Many regards,

 

Siem te Voortwis

 

 

 

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Well it looks like 2 of the 3 sysex strings are the same so i would focus on the one that is different.

The string you want to manipulate is this one

For On pp would be

F0 43 10 3D 40 03 0B pp F7

Where value of pp is 08 for on or 00 for off

So your output would be something like this

F0 43 10 3D 19 00 03 01 F7
F0 43 10 3D 40 03 0B pp F7

F0 43 10 3D 19 00 03 00 F7

Setting pp to 08 or 00 depending on whether you want on or off

Not sure if the other two message are required because I’m not familiar with what they do with your device.
I may be able to find out if the user manual documents it.

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Here is a project file I use note on to mute and note off to unmute

 


Attachments:
1489163002824_Yamaha-O2R-button-fuctions.bmtp
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If this solves your issue please mark as resolved.

5

Thanks for your help. I try it tommorow. 😉

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Hi steve,

I am very new with working with sysex so far so good.
I have another question about setting up the pan controller for each channel.
I did it the same way like the fader setiings in midi translator rules:
pp=pp*16
pp=pp+qq.

With the pan dial on my O2r in cubase it flips immediately to the right channel
Maybe some rule change? The code from channel 1 pan is:

F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 00 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 01 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 02 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 03 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 04 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 05 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 06 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 07 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 08 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 09 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0A F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0B F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0C F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0D F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0E F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0F F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 00 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 01 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 02 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 03 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 04 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 05 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 06 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 07 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 08 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 09 F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0A F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0B F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0C F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0D F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0E F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0F F7
F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 02 00 F7

maybe you can help me with this?

Thank you!!

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Well it looks like byte 8 is the most significant byte of the pan value and byte 9 is least significant value.
Can you show me the values at:
-far left
-midpoint
-far right
I imagine we will need to set up a translator the does something takes a input value of 0-127 and then use that value to set up the values of byte 8 and byte 9 of the sysex messages above. We will need to figure based on what the 02R expects the values of these two bytes.
The main thing that confuses me is the last value above.

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Thanks for helping,

for the clearance i am sending the code from O2r to cubase.
The code you sent me was the other way arround

far left value is: F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1C 00 00 F7
midpoint is: F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1C 01 00 F7
far right value is: F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1C 02 00 F7

I send you the bome file what i have done so far
I did something different with the on/off function, but it works.

Greetings,

Siem


Attachments:
1489260767643_Yamaha-O2R.bmtp
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Thanks for helping,

for the clearance i am sending the code from O2r to cubase.
The code you sent me was the other way arround

far left value is: F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1C 00 00 F7
midpoint is: F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1C 01 00 F7
far right value is: F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1C 02 00 F7

I send you the bome file what i have done so far
I did something different with the on/off function, but it works.

Greetings,

Siem

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OK so it looks like maybe byte 8 is 00 for left 01 for center and 02 for right. I suspect byte 9 will always be between 00 and 0F but this is still a bit of a puzzle I wold have thought far right bytes would have been 02 0F instead of 02 00. Is one stop down from far right 01 0F? Maybe 02 00 has some other meaning? Let me know and I will see if I can figure a solution.

I anticipate you want input to be from some controller with value of 0-127.

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Try this in your fader 1 pan rules. Then use qq as your output value
qq=qq*4
if pp==1 then qq=qq+64
if pp==2 then qq=127
I didn’t realize you were using the 02R for input and wanted to translate to some other cc/note on output. I thought it was the other way around.

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I can’t figure this out. do I have to make 3 tranlator files for left center and right ?

I am totally new with this my apologize.

Maybe you can wright me the right file for me? And then I can try.


Attachments:
1489324316051_Fader-1-Pan.bmtp
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You should only have to have one but again, I don’t have the device so I cannot test. Maybe if you turn on logging and the copy and past the log file to a text file and add descriptions within showing what you are doing at various points?

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Hi, I created the below file since I don’t have an 02R for testing.

Translator Emulator is meant to try and emulate the output of your 02R based on a general controller I’m using. It takes a controller input values of 0-127 and then tries to emulate the Sysex output of your 02R. I feed that back into BMT to do the testing for the other translator. Sent to midi yoke1

Fader test is I believe close to what you want. It takes input from midi yoke 1 in the translator above and then turns it back to a cc value

 

I disabled your original fader pan translator

Hopefully this will help you.

 


Attachments:
1489330930779_Fader-1-Pan-test-2017-03-12..bmtp
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Thanks! I Will try it tommorow. I let You know if it does the trick!

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So I was curious and had to try it!
Cubase is responding to left and right. But the center is a little of in cubase. The center is now 1 to the right. and one dial to the right is R7 and one dial to the left is L6. I see that in cubase there are 99 steps to the left and 99 steps to the right. Something with the scaling isn’t the same as the O2r?

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Well it appears that there is different precision withe the output of the 02R. It looks like 02R only has 32 settings and I’m pretty sure cubase would have 127 maybe more. Is there a way you can change the output of the 02R to have better precision?
I find this by looking at values of your input 00-0F (only 16 increment left and 16 increments right)
We would have to do some other range variation calculations to convert to 99 left and 99 right but the precision would not change.

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I think you might be able to re-assign what the 02R send. Check out page 192 and 303 of you the Yamaha 02r96v2 guide. Without having the unit, it is difficult to me to understand or experiment.

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I think older version of 02R you cannot assign controllers but I found this in the 02R1E manual. Maybe your faders need re-calibration
Fader Calibration
This operation allows you to calibrate the faders.

  1. Turn the 02R power off.
  2. Press and hold the [ENTER] button, then turn the 02R power back
    on.
    The faders will calibrate themselves.
    page 170 (pdf page 280)
    Maybe look and see if the output has changed after re-calibration.
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I reset the faders from the O2r seems nothing changed. For me it’s only important that the Pan dial is properly scaled to cubase. If it is only 16 steps left and right so it be. I think that’s the limitation of the pan dial from the O2r. I can give you the log file with control output.
first wat I did is from center to left with this value range:

1: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0F F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x0F
2: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=60
3: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0E F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x0E
4: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=56
5: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0D F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x0D
6: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=52
7: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0C F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x0C
8: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=48
9: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0B F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x0B
10: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=44
11: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 0A F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x0A
12: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=40
13: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 09 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x09
14: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=36
15: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 08 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x08
16: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=32
17: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 07 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x07
18: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=28
19: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 06 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x06
20: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=24
21: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 05 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x05
22: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=20
23: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 04 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x04
24: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=16
25: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 03 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x03
26: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=12
27: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 02 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x02
28: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=8
29: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 01 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x01
30: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=4
31: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 00 00 F7, pp=0x00 qq=0x00
32: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=0

Next from center to right.

1: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 01 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x01
2: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=68
3: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 02 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x02
4: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=72
5: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 03 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x03
6: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=76
7: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 04 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x04
8: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=80
9: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 05 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x05
10: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=84
11: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 06 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x06
12: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=88
13: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 07 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x07
14: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=92
15: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 08 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x08
16: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=96
17: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 09 F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x09
18: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=100
19: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0A F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x0A
20: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=104
21: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0B F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x0B
22: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=108
23: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0C F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x0C
24: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=112
25: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0D F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x0D
26: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=116
27: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0E F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x0E
28: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=120
29: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 01 0F F7, pp=0x01 qq=0x0F
30: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=124
31: IN 0.2 MIDI 10 bytes F0 43 10 3D 00 04 1D 02 00 F7, pp=0x02 qq=0x00
32: OUT 0.2 Control Change on ch. 1 with CC#:50 (0x32) and value:qq=127

Maybe you can do something with this?

So we are not done yet!! The Eq section is also al little complicated in my opinion.
But first finish the pan controls!! 🙂 🙂

I really appreciate that you spent some time for helping me setting up the mixer!!!

Many thanks!!